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New Constitution Needed Now

Our current political system is beyond tweaking or amending. A foundation document designed for the 21st century is the beginning of survival for the vision that was America. Congress will not fix itself and the parties will never end a system that enriches its members. It's time to reboot.

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B. Thomas Marking , 14.12.2011, 18:09
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edward Machnik, 15.12.2011, 14:05
Read the New Constitution up to Article III. This is clearly someone with too much free time on their hands.

It defines nothing. It is totally vague, open to infinite interpretation. I will try to press on to read more. But what I have seen, it is one giant slippery slope.

I put my faith in the Founding Fathers who defended it in the Federalist Papers.

I suggest the writer of the New Constitution do the same.
B. Thomas Marking, 20.12.2011, 06:53
Ref: the Jefferson quote in the Foreword -- apparently, you're still wearing the coat which fitted you as a boy. Such reverence for the past will surely shorten our future.
edward machnik, 20.12.2011, 09:03
I see you are a cheap shot artist when you criticize my faith in the Founding Fathers. I doubt your NEW Constitution could pass the scrutiny that Jefferson and Madison faced in writing the Federalist Papers.

If you haven't noticed, many valuable things in life are old treasures. Asserting that anything new is better is fallacious!

Our Constitution is timeless. The current mess is mostly the result of illiminating any control on Congress' Power to TAX and the creation of the FEDERAL RESERVE, both in 1913. That resulted in the current folly of social engineering and endless perpetual DEBT.
edward Machnik, 15.12.2011, 14:28
Finished reading the New Constitution. It is pie in the SKY. You would need 2/3 of the States in Constitutional Convention to agree to rewritting a New Constitution. Not going to happen.

But it was fun reading it.
B. Thomas Marking, 20.12.2011, 06:59
Agreed -- in the current environment. So what is your proposal to overcome this obstacle, to keep the vision that was America from perishing?
edward machnik, 20.12.2011, 08:51
I would not try to overcome this obstical! I could not support this NEW Constitution. Too wordy.

I would first amend the current Constitution by repealing the 16th Amendment as noted elsewhere while at the same time instituting the FAIRTAX ACT of 2011, H.R. 25. This consumption tax illiminates the IRS and all FEDERAL TAXES.
edward machnik, 21.12.2011, 20:38
The NEW Constitution is more like a playbook than a rule book! I was taught as someone who wrote specifications, Use as few words as possible. Be precise.
edward machnik, 21.12.2011, 20:43
As an admirerer of the Greatest Document ever written; I ask you exactly what in the Constitution can not be applied to governing in the 21st Century?
edward machnik, 21.12.2011, 20:45
P.S. Most of the problems with our Federal Legislator is that they DON'T follow the Constitution.
B. Thomas Marking, 02.01.2012, 06:37
I see you have commented. Thank you.
1. Our constitution may have been the greatest document ever written in the 18th century, but you appear to have been overcome by blind reverence. Even Thomas Jefferson would be clamoring for an update today.
2. Both constitutions are a socio-political framework - not detailed law. This new one simply puts restrictions on all branches of government to keep them from assuming powers they were never supposed to have. And did you miss the huge change of giving the Citizenry a real role in their government?
3. You are dreaming if you think the Congress is capable of passing even the most basic amendment needed to fix the system.
edward machnik, 02.01.2012, 09:46
Our constitution may have been the greatest document ever written in the 18th century, but you appear to have been overcome by blind reverence. Even Thomas Jefferson would be clamoring for an update today.

My reverence for the Constitution is with open eyes; it a document for the ages. Those assuming new must be better, don't offer examples where our Constituion has failed us. It hasn't. Only the public servents who swear to uphold the Constituion, and DON'T, have failed us.

Jefferson knew that the Constitution must be open to its amendment to account for situations that he couldn't possibly imagine. He never believed adapting to the unforeseen would need a complete overall. He made the amendment process one that required thoughtfull due dilligence and not a simple response to a whim.
edward machnik, 02.01.2012, 10:02
Both constitutions are a socio-political framework - not detailed law. This new one simply puts restrictions on all branches of government to keep them from assuming powers they were never supposed to have. And did you miss the huge change of giving the Citizenry a real role in their government?

Congress derives all its authority from the Power to tax. The Founding Fathers knew that, hence limited that Power by requiring that it be made accoriding to the Census. The 16th Amendment took away that control; hence the runaway creepiong socialism of today.

I guess I didn't read the NEW Constitution in enough detail; I saw nothing limiting Congress' Power to tax. Help me out!

I did miss the role of the Citzenry!!!!!!! We already have that, it is called ELECTIONS. In a Republic like ours, we elect representative to carry out the work of the people. That is more efficient. Having everyone meddling in policy and spending would result in gridlock of the worst kind.
edward machnik, 02.01.2012, 10:09
You are dreaming if you think the Congress is capable of passing even the most basic amendment needed to fix the system.

I am in no way dreaming that Congress can limit its own Power. They live to expand it. The Tea Party knew that. That is why the Tea Party was successfull in electing representative to Congress that would cap the lifeblood of their Power, tax revenue. Capping money to government will stop its expanding, like the universe itself.
GabeDowney, 20.01.2012, 16:46
The 3/5ths of a person part for starters.
edward machnik, 02.01.2012, 23:48
To whom it may concern, I ask again:

As an admirerer of the Greatest Document ever written; I ask you exactly what in the Constitution can not be applied to governing in the 21st Century?

A non-answer will be recorded as "nothing".
GabeDowney, 20.01.2012, 16:48
Compelling debate tactic. See above.
mcmaced, 24.01.2012, 12:49
Those wanting to change the Constitution are looking for some justification for all the social engineering that goes on, in direct violation of the Constitution.

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